{"id":4082,"date":"2021-11-22T11:37:19","date_gmt":"2021-11-22T16:37:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/abudinen.com\/blog\/?p=4082"},"modified":"2021-11-22T11:37:20","modified_gmt":"2021-11-22T16:37:20","slug":"vimanas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/abudinen.com\/blog\/2021\/11\/22\/vimanas\/","title":{"rendered":"Vimanas"},"content":{"rendered":"\n(go to 2:20:50 in the video).\n\n\n\n(see footnotes below) \n\n\n\nAncient Aliens: \u201cAncient Sanskrit texts dating back as far as 6,000BC\u2026\u201d\n\n\n\nWow, 6000 BC\u2026really? In reality the oldest of these texts would be the Vedas, which date to between 500-1500 BC[1][2].\n\n\n\nAncient Aliens just adds another 5,000 years as if no one would notice. They\u2019re actually even contradicting themselves with this date because in another episode they correctly state that the oldest writings in the world are the Sumerian tablets, the oldest of which date to about 4000 BC.\n\n\n\nSo why they now say that there are some writings 2,000 years older than the oldest writings, I don\u2019t think anyone knows.\n\n\n\nAA: \u201c\u2026describing vivid detail flying machines called Vimanas.\u201d\n\n\n\nAA: \u201cVimanas are [airplanes] and they are powered by some jet engines. This seems to be true because all of the description of the flight behavior. Elephants ran away in panic; grass was thrown out because there was a lot of pressure from behind those Vimanas, so we can say that this was a description of [a] spaceship.\u201d\n\n\n\nThe word Vimana literally means \u2018having been measured out\u2019[3]. It was related to the king\u2019s palaces, and was referring to their intricate construction.\u00a0 Later on, as a result the word became synonymous with palaces in general. And because of that it was used to refer to the palaces of the gods as well[4].\n\n\n\nAnd yes these palaces of the gods were in the heavens, and they could fly, but as we look into this it will be clear that some of th[...x]<\/span>
e Vimanas of the gods really were huge palaces, with gardens and terraces and golden staircases.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then, because the palaces of the gods flew, the word gradually became used for anything that could fly, either in mythology or in reality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So understanding the palace concept in the development of the word Vimana is helpful in understanding what we will be looking at.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But before we look into the real descriptions of Vimanas in the Vedic texts we must first examine a fake text, because almost everything that Ancient Aliens says about Vimanas comes from a totally bogus text called the Vimanika Shastra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AA: \u201cAlthough mainstream historians believe the Vimana texts are myths, many of the documents contain passages that seem to describe modern machinery and technology.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AA: \u201cThe Vimanika Shastra goes into metals that are used in these crafts. It talks about electricity and power sources. It talks about pilots and the clothing they need to wear. It talks about the food that they eat. It talks even about the weapons that are kept on these airships.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AA: \u201cThe flight manuals of the Vimanas are quite similar to the flight manuals you find in the modern passenger-flight business or when you go to the military jet engines. Of course, they also have flight manuals because it\u2019s necessary for a pilot to get knowledge about [the] plane he [wants] to fly with.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Vimanika Shastra is not an actual ancient text. It was channeled, or dictated, to the author from the spirit world in 1918[5].<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The spirit who supposedly dictated the text claimed to be and ancient seer named Bharadvada, who is prominent in some ancient writings[6], so I guess that is what is supposed to give this text credibility \u2013 that is, the idea that the ghost of someone ancient supposedly dictated it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But they\u2019re not even sure if that version of the story is true, because the first mention of any of this in in 1952 by the guy who supposedly found and translated this text from 1918[7], so as far as anyone knows he could have made the whole channeled by a famous ghost story up in 1952.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The text itself reads like a technical manual, describing the details of how Vimanas operated. It includes the description of what must have sounded like a really technical idea in 1918 or 1952 called a mercury-vortex engine. Ancient Aliens spends a huge amount of time talking about this idea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AA: \u201cThe Vimanika Shastra, or science of aeronautics, indicates Vimanas used a propulsion system based on a combination of gyroscopes, electricity and mercury. Is this possible?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AA: \u201cMercury is an unusual element. Mercury is metal. It\u2019s also a liquid and it\u2019s a conductor of electricity.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AA: \u201cThe Vimanika Shastra suggests Vimanas were powered by several gyroscopes placed inside a sealed liquid mercury vortex.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AA: \u201cOne of the texts talks about mercury rotating and driving some sort of a powerful wind or a windmill effect. That might be some sort of what we call a fly-wheel energy storage where you have a spinning disc and you extract energy from it slowly \u2013 that would be the mercury. That could be used to drive some sort of propeller or what we call a conducted fan.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Some of the other things this text describes are equally scientific sounding. It even includes very technical drawings of the things it\u2019s talking about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But when you look closer at all this it becomes obvious that it is physically impossible for any of these craft to get off the ground. In fact 20 years later, in 1974, a study was done on the texts and the drawings by the Aeronautical and Mechanical Institute of Science in Bangalore, India[8]. I will quote Will Hunt, an American freelance writer based in India for a description of how that study came out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cAs thoroughly as it had been written, the committee just as thoroughly dismantled the study in an essay called\u00a0A Critical Study of the Work Vymanika Shastra. They questioned whether the author (whoever that may have been) had any grasp of basic physics, chemistry and electricity, not to mention the \u201cdisciplines of aeronautics: aerodynamics, aeronautical structures, propulsive devices, materials, and metallurgy.\u201d Their conclusion: \u201cNone of the planes has properties or capabilities of being flown; the geometries are unimaginably horrendous from the point of view of flying; and the principles of propulsion make them resist rather than assist flying.[9]\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Another writer, JB hare writing for the Sacred Text Archive said the following of the craft in the Vimanika Shastra:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201c[They are] absurdly non-aerodynamic\u2026 brutalist wedding cakes, with minarets, huge ornithopter wings and dinky propellers.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I have a feeling that even though 90 percent of the information that Ancient Aliens presents on Vimanas comes from this text, they realize that it has been thoroughly discredited.\u00a0 So in an odd twist, after spending 5 minutes on how great the idea of a mercury vortex engine would be, they then let everyone know that the idea wouldn\u2019t actually work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

They stop short, however, of saying there is anything wrong with this text though, they just say that there may have been a problem with the translation of a word or two.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AA: \u201cFly-wheel energy-storage systems however tend to lose power quickly. To navigate across space its size would have to be enormous.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AA: \u201cIt\u2019s not at all clear that this would be a practical device. Maybe the people were trying to describe something that [kind of] looked like something like this to them. It might not have actually have been mercury. It might have been some other liquid metal.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AA: \u201cThe mercury vortex engine is perhaps a failure in the translation because the vortex is not a material quite suitable to a jet engine.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So let\u2019s move on to the mentions of Vimanas in the actual ancient Vedic texts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So as I have already mentioned the word Vimana came to mean \u2018palace\u2019, and when it was a palace of a god it was usually capable of flying around.\u200b<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When we look at the development of Vimanas chronologically the mystery surrounding them vanishes. First of all they were not even mentioned in the earlier texts, and when they were finally mentioned, the next thousand years of their being mentioned always included them having wheels and being drawn by horses[10], not exactly a mercury vortex engine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then, around 500 BC, the chariots lose their horses and are depicted as flying on their own[11].<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jason Colavito says the following about the first mentions of Vimanas without horses:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThe very first of these is the flying chariot of the earthly king Ravana called Pushpaka. By the time of the\u00a0Mahabharata\u00a0(c. 400 BCE), these flying chariots had grown in size\u2013one was now described as 12 cubits in circumference\u2013but they never lost the large wheels that marked them as derived from earthly horse-drawn chariots.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s also interesting to see that Ancient Astronaut theorists have to distort the actual description of Vimanas in the Vedic texts in order to make them sound like UFO\u2019s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For example, the following is a quote from David Childress\u2019 book where he is supposed to be quoting a description of a Vimana from an ancient text. We\u2019ll read what he tells his readers what it says, and then we will read the actual ancient text and note the differences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

First lets here is Childress\u2019 version:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cWhen morning dawned, Rama, taking the Celestial Car Puspaka had sent to him by Vivpishand, stood ready to depart. Self-propelled was that car. It was large and finely painted. It had two stories and many chambers with windows, and was draped with flags and banners. It gave forth a melodious sound as it coursed along its airy way.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And now here is what the actual\u00a0Ramayana\u00a0says:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cAnd the mighty monkey ascended the splendid car\u00a0Pushpaka,\u00a0containing figures of wolves,\u2014made of\u00a0Kart taswara\u00a0and\u00a0Hir anya;\u00a0graced with ranges of goodly pillars; as if blazing in splendor; throughout garnished with narrow secret rooms and saloons, piercing the heavens, and resembling Meru or Mandara, and like unto the flaming Sun; skillfully reared by Vic wak arma; with golden staircases and graceful and grand raised seats, rows of golden and crystal windows, and daises composed of sapphires, emeralds and other superb gems; embellished with noble\u00a0vid-rumas,\u00a0costly stones, and round pearls, as also with plastered terraces; pasted with red sandal, like unto gold, and furnished with a sacred aroma; and resembling the sun new risen[12]. (Sundarakandam 9)\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Colavito says of this: \u201cElsewhere it is described as being filled with fruit trees, and sometimes it is drawn by geese. Do you know many UFOs with \u201cplastered terraces\u201d and red paint?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In summary, most of what Ancient Aliens uses on this point is from a bogus 20th-century channeled text, which they dishonestly present as an ancient text. And even the real descriptions of Vimanas get some tweaking by them in order to make it sound like a UFO.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The development of the idea of Vimanas in Hindu mythology can be traced easily, and loses all of its intrigue for the Ancient Astronaut theorist when you do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[1] Gavin Flood sums up mainstream estimates, according to which the Rigveda was compiled from as early as 1500 BCE over a period of several centuries. Flood 1996, p. 37<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[2] Witzel, Michael, \u201cVedas and Upani?ads\u201d, in: Flood 2003, p. 68<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[3] Monier-Williams, Sanskrit-English Dictionary, version 0.1a_12<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[4] Ibid<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[5] <\/p>\n\n\n\n

[6] David Hatcher Childress, Vimana Aircraft of Ancient India, Adventures Unlimited Press (1991)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[7] <\/p>\n\n\n\n

[8] Mukunda, H.S.; Deshpande, S.M., Nagendra, H.R., Prabhu, A. and Govindraju, S.P. (1974). \u201cA critical study of the work \u201cVyamanika Shastra\u201d\u201d. Scientific Opinion: 5\u201312.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[9] Ibid<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[10] Ibid<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[11] Ibid<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[12] Ramayana, Sundarakandam 9<\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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